I'm still filled with so many thoughts. Just not sure how many I remember at any one point!
Let' see...
Well in recovery from Wineglass the week before, I hadn't done too much. Took a little gentle 4 miler on Thursday and things felt pretty reasonable. Seems to be about a 2-3 day recovery with the quads being the main items to get back in line last.
Sleep was decent, not great, I'd kinda hoped for some sleeping in, but nerves or otherwise, I got about 8hrs a night.
But Saturday night going into Sunday morning, I woke up around 1 and just couldn't really get back to sleep. Got a few bits and pieces with some weird dreams and didn't feel real good at around 4 when it was time to get up.
I got up though, made it downstairs and tried to eat whatever I was going to have for breakfast by 4:30 since I'd be running in a few hours. Mainly fruit and Yogurt I believe.
Otherwise got ready and out the door just after 5:30 I believe.
Decided on the way down that I'd stop at the welcome to PA visitor center to use the bathrooms. Though it's not my first preference given that I'm in running attire and probably look a bit odd to the norms. Also, my key was semi-buried in my Orange Mud pack, but I got the key out and was ready. But... Apparently it was so foggy in that area that I never actually saw it. I was thinking there would be signs for it, but I guess normally it's just obvious where it is. When I went past I'm pretty sure it was just fog and a bunch of extra lights out on the highway where the welcome to PA sign is. Oh well. I ended up making a roadside stop in the dark near a barn when I was down past Tioga. Also realized I had yet another marker light out on the Prius. Apparently around 12 years/200K miles is when they go...
Got on site just before 7 I think which was just about perfect. Got any last minute things attached and headed up the road to the starting line. It was right around sunrise, pretty low key(there were only about 70 runners for the 50K and the 25K didn't start for another hour and a half). Had the starting line clock ticking down until the start time which I liked.
I had already gotten my swag bag Friday night but hadn't realized that I needed to check in Sunday morning to get my bib. So got my bib attached, dropped in my ticket for a prize entry, one last potty break, and stood over by the fire for a few minutes before the pre race meeting. Which mainly told us to follow the yellow, blue or pink blazes and ribbons and to not go towards orange markings.
Then we all kinda meandered over to the starting line and we were off at 7:30!
Overall feeling of the course was just beautiful. The sun was out, yet being filtered by the trees, the wind was blowing through the trees and it was just out running or hiking through the woods with the leaves falling and already on the ground and just beautiful. Temperatures were perfect. It was cold to start, but within a couple miles the gloves weren't needed and the sleeves and buff shortly after that.
Whole course was also fairly rocky. Not horribly so, but my feet in my Fivefingers were feeling it after so many miles. Especially towards the second half and when the leaves were hiding most of them so it was hard to know where to plant my feet even while walking.
But it was about like the course description read. A nice mile of mostly flat, then a real serious uphill, then there must have been a pretty good downhill in there... Actually that might have been the one I flew down in the zone when my legs were fresh. Next hill must have been close to 40 degrees, Very steep and rocky. Just go straight up!
Hmm... I think maybe then was more downhill, but I was having a harder time finding my groove to get much speed...
I think we came down Frankenstein's forehead after that... That one someone did tell me was 40 degrees. It's definitely another straight down hill, and it was the one that really hurt my feet/legs by the time I was back down it.
Shortly thereafter was the 25K/50K split and I was happy to see I hadn't been passed by any quick 25K people.
BUT, that was only mile 13... So kinda a misleading feeling with another 3 miles to go before reaching the halfway point...
But I continued on the 50K path and through the first of some stream crossings, then on to some more hills. Was feeling pretty good and making pretty good time I felt.
And then around 13.5 miles I was climbing a hill and woah... The left thigh had been coming and going with pain as it's done before. But the right one suddenly kicked in with a full on cramp. I decided to just try giving it a minute. After a minute I decided to take off my pack and dig out the mustard I had put in there for this reason. Thankfully before I actually got the mustard the cramp was subsiding. But I put 3 packets in my shorts pocket just in case.
So I continued up the hill, but pulled my pace back considerably.
I think it was about another 5-10 miles before the cramping really wasn't giving any more hints that it was going to bite me again.
And yeah, around mile 14 or so, it was getting pretty tiring and my body was largely saying it would just as soon be done with this. It was a definite mental push for the last 18 miles!
Made it to mile 16 and the halfway point and looked like we'd done 4400' of ascent, so that should mean we were a good bit beyond the halfway point as far as that went.
Made it to the un-manned aid station at 17.5 miles and talked for a moment with 3 other runners who had just passed me. We passed each other several times over the next number of miles. I only passed them when I left the aid stations sooner than they did.
One memorable moment was when I mentioned that it probably wasn't the best bet to have just done the Wineglass marathon the week before and one of the runners said that Wineglass was a lot easier than Monster, and I said I didn't think so. But then I was thinking about it in the miles till I met up with them again one more time, and it occurred to me that Yes, Green Monster is indeed harder physically(though not in every way), but mentally not really(but kinda)...
I don't really like the way my body feels towards the second half of Wineglass, but I do rather like the course. That said, Green Monster is SOOOO much better... Wineglass is paved roads and it's nice scenery, but you're still out on a road. And there's lots of spectators and so there's a lot more pressure to be running the whole way. Monster is just a hike out in the woods.
And as far as aid stations go, I've never really ventured out into some of the more interesting food options. Just pretty much stuck to the gels and water. Well, at the second aid station I tried M&M's. Eh, I kinda regretted that. They were fine, but just didn't push any buttons. (I mean I'm getting plenty of plain sugar in the gels I'm eating). Then around maybe mile 20 I did NOT take a pierogi and almost immediately regretted it. I think I had some gas pains and I was just being a bit cautious, but I was like, Oh I wish I had taken one!
I believe it was mile 21(and these numbers are a bit iffy since my watch was losing signal and I was behind by at least a mile towards the end). I tried a boiled potato. That was fine, though they were seriously missing out as it should have been a SALT potato! It was also the aid station at this cool rock formation which normally would be a ton of fun to run/play on. Indeed, the course went through it and you had to like step over big, deep cracks, and then obstacle course your way over some big stuff. Unfortunately, at that point my legs were not real happy with me, so it was a real concerted effort not to hurt myself there!
Somewhere around there I had my first corn chips of the race as well... OMG... Those are the bomb. Normally I just find corn chips OK and never buy any myself. But, they were apparently what I was craving during the race!
Yeah, LOTS of just keep going for those miles ahead. Don't remember any huge hills there at least as far as steepness. Some more flat-ish sections and generally a bit easier. More cool rocks to look at. Lots of stream crossings, some close to half way up my knees. Well, I could have avoided the water more, and initially I was trying to stay dry, but then I had to go in a bit and then realized that the cold water felt great on my feet. At one point I found a nice deep spot and just stood there for a minute soaking. Ahhh... Got going again and gave a brief though to just laying down in it... But it wasn't really that hot at all, just looking for a refresher.
Hmm, oh there was some muddy sections as well...
I think maybe around mile 23 I pulled out my phone/music and headphones. But, eh... It just didn't do much for me at that point. Which must have meant I was pretty tired cause usually that's good for a bit of a boost.
The next thoughts that come to mind were near the end.
Somewhere around maybe mile 24 the person behind me caught up as we hit the 2nd to last aid station. I hadn't seen anyone for hours at that point I think. The lady there was great. I enjoyed some chicken noodle soup and pierogies! And after a few minutes, I continued on, more medium uphills.
I think it was like 3-5 miles to the last aid station. Oh yeah, somewhere around there were more downhills of decent steepness. MAN even the downhills were really grinding on my legs and I don't generally have any trouble with those.
So, last aid station, mile 28.5. Except that's not what my watch says. It's only reading 27 something. I confirm. This is 28.5? Yep. And it's only 4 miles to the finish? 3.75. WOOHOO, I'm a mile or so ahead of what my watch is telling me! I think I can make it! Except they tell me there is another hill to go up. And that's what I thought I remembered from the elevation profile. Another full climb? Yup.
So, I took quarter piece of PB&J(I regret not taking another), and another cup of corn chips(oh yeah) and off I went for the last section.
And oh my was it... As soon as I left the aid station it was up hill. And it was not gentle. It was pretty steep. Look up... Uggghh, it goes just about full on steep. And it just keeps going. Yep, about another 1000' foot climb. I've no idea how I managed to keep 27 minute miles up that thing. Every step was labored and slow. But another hour maybe and I had reached what I had SOO hoped and turned out to be true was the LAST top of a mountain. Still more or less walking/power walking when one lady surprised me(again, no one had been around for so long) and passed me in full on power hiking mode.
Then on another descent of medium grade. Legs were shot, but not near as bad as some of the other recent descents. I'd find myself starting to get into a slow run down the hill and thinking I was just about there, but then nope, I wasn't. So it was still another hour maybe of off and on again walking/running.
FINALLY got to the bottom... And there had been quite a number of "Am I on the right path?" times where the markers or blazes were spaced out, but this time I was pretty sure I was supposed to go straight to the road, but then which way? After a minute, I finally saw the flags down the road and was pretty sure that was the finish. Sure enough!
10 hours and 2 minutes!
They were kinda working on closing up shop, but I got some applause from the remaining people and they still had some pulled pork and mac n cheese for me. So I sat for a little bit, ate my food, and then made some painful steps to the portapotty and back to the car. Back home around 7:30!
Sunday, October 11, 2015
Sunday, August 23, 2015
1 Weekend, 2 Days, 2 Races
Oh, it was kinda interesting so let me see if I can recap a bit.
Saturday was Hardcore Mudd Run Ultra NY. It was WAY smaller than most other races I've done. Like a few rows of cars small. Like maybe 15 people in the elite wave at 9 and 30? people when I went at 9:30...
Not sure if there was any prizes for the elite wave but I guess I should have signed up, my time was only 10 minutes behind the slowest "winner". Not sure if they were any more picky on the obstacles for that or not...
Anyway, it was a good run. A bit different than I had thought. Let me look at the obstacles to recall...
-Firediver was right at the start, that was simple enough but pretty cool jumping over a couple channels of fire and under a couple more.
-Mudd Run was something of a repetitive theme, a bunch of back and forth mowed paths in a field. Though this first section was up and down hill and through a few smallish mud pits. Not too exciting.
-Landslide I don't even remember unless this was the slide by the pond...
-Cool runnings I guess was the first section through the trees...
This was another issue that could go in either direction...
See, they have an obstacle called "lost in the woods" and it was repeatedly stated by the announcer that the course was 6.5 miles, or 7.5 miles depending on how you went through the woods and that it was very tricky and you might get to a dead end and to just come back, etc...
-So, apparently this first section of woods was NOT intended to get anyone lost... But this was much like the Finger Lakes Trails I've done around home. Which is to say you're just out in the woods with generally no actual trail and you're just looking for the next blaze on a tree. Though they did have some pink tape on these. I guess I did well and found the right way but I really wasn't sure and apparently almost everyone else got lost. So... Not so good if this was NOT the objective here... But I kind of like the rugged terrain so it was kinda fun.
-Rubber bridge is the typical inner tubes on a pond. Eh, it's fine, nothing new.
-OK, I think they misplaced Landslide and that is the slide... Wasn't too impressed with their slide. It was the typical soapy tarp on a hill into a mud pit, but on the other.... 3 of these I think I've done at other races, they were all fun, fast and not really worrying for my safety. This one was somehow not very fast, but still seemed like there were rocks to catch on under the tarp and they'd only cleared one side of the tarp and I kinda slid towards off the side of it into the dirt and into a possibly too small pit at the end. No real problems but it just didn't seem set up well.
-Bobbers were a few rows of 55 gallon drums that you swam under. Quite simple, but the water was nice and warm and I really quite liked hopping in and swimming under them.
-Mission Impossible/Up and over. I think these might be off a bit as well. Basically, it was another not very well marked section of back and forth across a field. Worse this time since the whole field was runnable so I wasn't sure if I was supposed to just stick to the freshly mowed stuff(with no markings at all) or just go straight to the next obstacle. Thankfully there was a somewhat nearby volunteer who told me to stick to the fresh mowed stuff.
That led me to some reverse inclined walls of about 10' I think with a 3/4" rope. I thought I might be able to do it, but dang that smaller rope is really difficult. I managed to get myself on the rope and feet locked on it, but I could get myself up the couple feet to the top of the wall. I was the only one there besides a volunteer. So after a minute or two, I elected to go on around.
-Water stop and a half banana and then to this piece of fence... I've done this obstacle at several other races where it's basically just a tight cargo net on the ground and you crawl under it and it pulls on you. Generally not too bad, bordering on quite easy. Well, this is a section of chain link fence. And again, I was going by myself... This was WAY harder than I had imagined. I spent like 5-10 minutes under that thing. Could barely lift it enough to be able to move myself and could barely figure out which way I should be headed once I was under it and then my Spibelt was getting caught. In the end I made it out, way more energy expended and some pretty good bruises on both shoulder blades.
-Then it was back into the woods where I had previously come out, people were still lost. I was just told this time to follow the paint and that it should kinda go off in a slightly different direction than when I came out of the same opening a little bit ago... Well, I seemed to be following it. Still unsure though. And it was a mix of paint/tape on the trees... Then the paint can lying on the ground near the last paint, but there was still some tape. And then it seemed to dead end... Ok, back to the last tape, look around... Nope... Look some more... Oh wait, way downhill, far to my right in the creek there's another piece of tape. And back on the hunt. Like another mile of randomness through the woods wondering if I'm on the right path or "getting lost"... I finally get out of the woods and there's a guy there and I ask if I was on the right path or not and he tells me that section doesn't come till later and asks if it could use some more marking... Umm, yeah if you're not supposed to worry about getting lost in that section!
-Now we're up to the 10 and 12' walls. Umm yeah, that's about impossible by myself. The last 12' did have a rope though, so i tried and did make it to the top, but there was no way I was going to have the oomph to get myself up the foot or two so I could get a leg over. I caught up to a team at this section and they offered to help, but I didn't get the impression they were going to be able to each lift 100lbs well above their heads...
-So then we're up to the paint ball run where you choose to crawl along hay bales, or run through possible paint balls. The team was going through one by one crawling. No sign of paintballs. I was waiting for them as I talked to the guy and said I wasn't sure which way to go, I've never been hit by a paintball and I wasn't going to get hit in the face, right? So I elected to run for it. It was a short section, I don't think the paintball guys were ready. Took me about 3 seconds to sprint past and then about 2 seconds after I was through I heard a few shots fired. Woohoo!
-Down and dirty... Don't recall, oh yeah it was a crawl under barbed wire. I rolled under.
-Then the cargo mountain... This was a surprise... I've done many cargo nets. Always found them quite easy. This one was NOT... It was attached maybe 15' or more between a couple trees and VERY loose. So, it was a bit more difficult going up, but not bad. But then at the top... Umm this was new... When the nets are loose, my feet are now in FRONT of me, not under me... So how do I get them over the top? The volunteers said something about some people flipping over the top. Haha, very funny. Yeah, I'm sure I could flip over easy enough, but not so sure about not falling straight to the ground afterwards or maybe just busting my shoulder while trying to hold on while flipping... Thankfully the team I had just passed caught up and with a couple guys on there giving it some more tension I managed to maneuver myself just enough to make it over. Still, very scary and difficult compared to all others!
-THEN we come to lost in the woods. I ran into a guy that I thought was quite a ways ahead of me and indeed he was getting pissed at not finding his way out. I kept watch on both sides and thought I could see all the flags, yet they did all seem to end at the same place. Followed the other team and basically figured out I guess the idea was that you were just supposed to loop yourself back to where you started. And sure enough after a bit we found our way continuing on the course. Which then led to more slightly sketchy following of markings through the woods.
-Then to a 40lb rock carry up and down a stretch. No biggie.
-Hmm, they list a few more things, but I'm not sure I recall...
I think it was pretty much just a good bit more trail running over some rugged terrain and thankfully it was more definitive.
-Then to Electric Ave. Now this one was definitely more hardcore as well. Mudder's Electro shock therapy is just a short section you walk or run through and I managed to dodge all of them 2 years ago. This one, not so much. It's down at ground level so you can only roll or crawl through and they all touch the ground so you're not escaping. and it's uphill. I elected to roll which one guy kept saying was the worst idea, but I'm not sure why. I counted 10 shocks as I went through. Only one of them was bad, I think because it hit my head whereas the others just hit my arm.
-But from there, took a minute to figure out where straight was again, then on up the hill, over a couple of maybe 5' walls and to the finish!
A good time overall.
Sunday:Dam Good Trail Race
I'll say that compared to last year it was MUCH nicer. It was about 10 degrees cooler, 50% less humid and the ground was almost entirely dry.
Me? I dunno, I think I must have used up my coordination at Hardcore(or maybe the shocks did me in?) (:
I thought I felt ok as we started out at a quick but not too bad 10 or so minute pace.
But I've never tripped more than a couple times on ANY run. I tripped like in the first mile, then maybe around mile 2 full on crashed and let a group of people on by which was nicer to just run by myself(I guess that kinda depends on who is around, pace, etc as to whether I prefer to run with others in this sense). But I tripped maybe 8 more times and my left ankle/shin something was not feeling too great.
But by around mile 4 or 5 I think my body started to get broken in and not feeling too bad. I was still closer to 13 minute miles than 10's, but I didn't feel like I was hurting and going to crash repeatedly. (Maybe it was just the caffienated shot blocks kicking in).
Kept on trucking and surprisingly around maybe mile 10 I think I felt even better and felt I finished quite strong for the last few miles and not really hurting!
Another good one!
Saturday was Hardcore Mudd Run Ultra NY. It was WAY smaller than most other races I've done. Like a few rows of cars small. Like maybe 15 people in the elite wave at 9 and 30? people when I went at 9:30...
Not sure if there was any prizes for the elite wave but I guess I should have signed up, my time was only 10 minutes behind the slowest "winner". Not sure if they were any more picky on the obstacles for that or not...
Anyway, it was a good run. A bit different than I had thought. Let me look at the obstacles to recall...
-Firediver was right at the start, that was simple enough but pretty cool jumping over a couple channels of fire and under a couple more.
-Mudd Run was something of a repetitive theme, a bunch of back and forth mowed paths in a field. Though this first section was up and down hill and through a few smallish mud pits. Not too exciting.
-Landslide I don't even remember unless this was the slide by the pond...
-Cool runnings I guess was the first section through the trees...
This was another issue that could go in either direction...
See, they have an obstacle called "lost in the woods" and it was repeatedly stated by the announcer that the course was 6.5 miles, or 7.5 miles depending on how you went through the woods and that it was very tricky and you might get to a dead end and to just come back, etc...
-So, apparently this first section of woods was NOT intended to get anyone lost... But this was much like the Finger Lakes Trails I've done around home. Which is to say you're just out in the woods with generally no actual trail and you're just looking for the next blaze on a tree. Though they did have some pink tape on these. I guess I did well and found the right way but I really wasn't sure and apparently almost everyone else got lost. So... Not so good if this was NOT the objective here... But I kind of like the rugged terrain so it was kinda fun.
-Rubber bridge is the typical inner tubes on a pond. Eh, it's fine, nothing new.
-OK, I think they misplaced Landslide and that is the slide... Wasn't too impressed with their slide. It was the typical soapy tarp on a hill into a mud pit, but on the other.... 3 of these I think I've done at other races, they were all fun, fast and not really worrying for my safety. This one was somehow not very fast, but still seemed like there were rocks to catch on under the tarp and they'd only cleared one side of the tarp and I kinda slid towards off the side of it into the dirt and into a possibly too small pit at the end. No real problems but it just didn't seem set up well.
-Bobbers were a few rows of 55 gallon drums that you swam under. Quite simple, but the water was nice and warm and I really quite liked hopping in and swimming under them.
-Mission Impossible/Up and over. I think these might be off a bit as well. Basically, it was another not very well marked section of back and forth across a field. Worse this time since the whole field was runnable so I wasn't sure if I was supposed to just stick to the freshly mowed stuff(with no markings at all) or just go straight to the next obstacle. Thankfully there was a somewhat nearby volunteer who told me to stick to the fresh mowed stuff.
That led me to some reverse inclined walls of about 10' I think with a 3/4" rope. I thought I might be able to do it, but dang that smaller rope is really difficult. I managed to get myself on the rope and feet locked on it, but I could get myself up the couple feet to the top of the wall. I was the only one there besides a volunteer. So after a minute or two, I elected to go on around.
-Water stop and a half banana and then to this piece of fence... I've done this obstacle at several other races where it's basically just a tight cargo net on the ground and you crawl under it and it pulls on you. Generally not too bad, bordering on quite easy. Well, this is a section of chain link fence. And again, I was going by myself... This was WAY harder than I had imagined. I spent like 5-10 minutes under that thing. Could barely lift it enough to be able to move myself and could barely figure out which way I should be headed once I was under it and then my Spibelt was getting caught. In the end I made it out, way more energy expended and some pretty good bruises on both shoulder blades.
-Then it was back into the woods where I had previously come out, people were still lost. I was just told this time to follow the paint and that it should kinda go off in a slightly different direction than when I came out of the same opening a little bit ago... Well, I seemed to be following it. Still unsure though. And it was a mix of paint/tape on the trees... Then the paint can lying on the ground near the last paint, but there was still some tape. And then it seemed to dead end... Ok, back to the last tape, look around... Nope... Look some more... Oh wait, way downhill, far to my right in the creek there's another piece of tape. And back on the hunt. Like another mile of randomness through the woods wondering if I'm on the right path or "getting lost"... I finally get out of the woods and there's a guy there and I ask if I was on the right path or not and he tells me that section doesn't come till later and asks if it could use some more marking... Umm, yeah if you're not supposed to worry about getting lost in that section!
-Now we're up to the 10 and 12' walls. Umm yeah, that's about impossible by myself. The last 12' did have a rope though, so i tried and did make it to the top, but there was no way I was going to have the oomph to get myself up the foot or two so I could get a leg over. I caught up to a team at this section and they offered to help, but I didn't get the impression they were going to be able to each lift 100lbs well above their heads...
-So then we're up to the paint ball run where you choose to crawl along hay bales, or run through possible paint balls. The team was going through one by one crawling. No sign of paintballs. I was waiting for them as I talked to the guy and said I wasn't sure which way to go, I've never been hit by a paintball and I wasn't going to get hit in the face, right? So I elected to run for it. It was a short section, I don't think the paintball guys were ready. Took me about 3 seconds to sprint past and then about 2 seconds after I was through I heard a few shots fired. Woohoo!
-Down and dirty... Don't recall, oh yeah it was a crawl under barbed wire. I rolled under.
-Then the cargo mountain... This was a surprise... I've done many cargo nets. Always found them quite easy. This one was NOT... It was attached maybe 15' or more between a couple trees and VERY loose. So, it was a bit more difficult going up, but not bad. But then at the top... Umm this was new... When the nets are loose, my feet are now in FRONT of me, not under me... So how do I get them over the top? The volunteers said something about some people flipping over the top. Haha, very funny. Yeah, I'm sure I could flip over easy enough, but not so sure about not falling straight to the ground afterwards or maybe just busting my shoulder while trying to hold on while flipping... Thankfully the team I had just passed caught up and with a couple guys on there giving it some more tension I managed to maneuver myself just enough to make it over. Still, very scary and difficult compared to all others!
-THEN we come to lost in the woods. I ran into a guy that I thought was quite a ways ahead of me and indeed he was getting pissed at not finding his way out. I kept watch on both sides and thought I could see all the flags, yet they did all seem to end at the same place. Followed the other team and basically figured out I guess the idea was that you were just supposed to loop yourself back to where you started. And sure enough after a bit we found our way continuing on the course. Which then led to more slightly sketchy following of markings through the woods.
-Then to a 40lb rock carry up and down a stretch. No biggie.
-Hmm, they list a few more things, but I'm not sure I recall...
I think it was pretty much just a good bit more trail running over some rugged terrain and thankfully it was more definitive.
-Then to Electric Ave. Now this one was definitely more hardcore as well. Mudder's Electro shock therapy is just a short section you walk or run through and I managed to dodge all of them 2 years ago. This one, not so much. It's down at ground level so you can only roll or crawl through and they all touch the ground so you're not escaping. and it's uphill. I elected to roll which one guy kept saying was the worst idea, but I'm not sure why. I counted 10 shocks as I went through. Only one of them was bad, I think because it hit my head whereas the others just hit my arm.
-But from there, took a minute to figure out where straight was again, then on up the hill, over a couple of maybe 5' walls and to the finish!
A good time overall.
Sunday:Dam Good Trail Race
I'll say that compared to last year it was MUCH nicer. It was about 10 degrees cooler, 50% less humid and the ground was almost entirely dry.
Me? I dunno, I think I must have used up my coordination at Hardcore(or maybe the shocks did me in?) (:
I thought I felt ok as we started out at a quick but not too bad 10 or so minute pace.
But I've never tripped more than a couple times on ANY run. I tripped like in the first mile, then maybe around mile 2 full on crashed and let a group of people on by which was nicer to just run by myself(I guess that kinda depends on who is around, pace, etc as to whether I prefer to run with others in this sense). But I tripped maybe 8 more times and my left ankle/shin something was not feeling too great.
But by around mile 4 or 5 I think my body started to get broken in and not feeling too bad. I was still closer to 13 minute miles than 10's, but I didn't feel like I was hurting and going to crash repeatedly. (Maybe it was just the caffienated shot blocks kicking in).
Kept on trucking and surprisingly around maybe mile 10 I think I felt even better and felt I finished quite strong for the last few miles and not really hurting!
Another good one!
Tuesday, August 4, 2015
I think I can do it...
Saturday was Tough Mudder. Similar to last year, but somehow we took almost 4 hours. I guess we did wait more at the obstacles, etc. for team members to catch up. Not a lot, but I guess a couple minutes at each one adds up.
Most memorable for me was standing on that 15' platform and hearing 3,2,1 and somehow figuring I just had to take that jump off to the trapeze bar ahead, then somehow I got it, hung on and reached the bell on the other side before dropping to the water below. I have no problem climbing or standing on that platform, but the idea of jumping off is not something my body wants to do and that dang bar was just insane... But I did it somehow!
Also, don't let Mike pick a log saying "yeah, we want the biggest one you got, that 400+lb one!" especially when he didn't realize we had to take it down into a gulley, through a couple walls and some mud and back out again!
I made it up the monkey bars and somehow grabbed the trapeze bar, but completely failed to reach the lengthwise pipe on the other side.
But in all it went pretty well. That said, I did find myself again thinking that I didn't necessarily care about the rest of the races this year...
BUT... I woke a bit tired on Sunday, but actually feeling pretty well... Yeah, I had a few scrapes and cuts, but mentally and physically I was feeling overall better/more capable...
So Monday I headed out for a 16 miler and wore my thicker NB Minimus Trail Zero V2's. Supposedly minimal, but there's WAY more shoe to them. So I have the good and bad... I've lost my ground feel, but my feet which are still a bit off/on with lingering pains to a degree also don't seem to be getting much negatives from it... So I can plow over my rocky road and not even notice golf ball sized rocks wherever they end up... As long as I don't end up going stupid it should be OK.
Although the other double sided part is that since they don't fit like a glove, I ended up with a nice blister in my (lack of) arch on my left foot after maybe 6 miles in. I stopped back at the garage around mile 9 and wrapped it with some electrical tape. It survived.
But in all, I felt quite good at the end of that 16 mile run...
And Tuesday's 6.5 mile run was a bit more rough, I still think it's doable...
And looking at the calendar...
Basically, it will all be done one way or the other in 2 months and a week...
-Howard 5K this weekend
-22 Miler Monday(let's hope that goes well... I should probably think about a paved route for that one...)
-A 16 miler the following Monday which will be taper week for 8.5 mile Hardcore Mudd Run Saturday and 13.5 mile Dam Good Trail Race Sunday.... I think I'm going to consider that pretty close to the 24 mile run that would otherwise be for the following Monday...
-Another 16 mile the next week which leads to the Spartan College Classic.
--POOF... 1 month and the bunch of "smaller" races is done...
-So... basically 26 miles of suck the Monday after Spartan and we're done worrying... 3 weeks of taper.
Then October bops in and we do 26 flat paved miles... Guess I'll aim for the 4:40 pacer and see how it goes...
Then Green Monster the following weekend at a decent walking pace overall and I made it!
I can do this...
Most memorable for me was standing on that 15' platform and hearing 3,2,1 and somehow figuring I just had to take that jump off to the trapeze bar ahead, then somehow I got it, hung on and reached the bell on the other side before dropping to the water below. I have no problem climbing or standing on that platform, but the idea of jumping off is not something my body wants to do and that dang bar was just insane... But I did it somehow!
Also, don't let Mike pick a log saying "yeah, we want the biggest one you got, that 400+lb one!" especially when he didn't realize we had to take it down into a gulley, through a couple walls and some mud and back out again!
I made it up the monkey bars and somehow grabbed the trapeze bar, but completely failed to reach the lengthwise pipe on the other side.
But in all it went pretty well. That said, I did find myself again thinking that I didn't necessarily care about the rest of the races this year...
BUT... I woke a bit tired on Sunday, but actually feeling pretty well... Yeah, I had a few scrapes and cuts, but mentally and physically I was feeling overall better/more capable...
So Monday I headed out for a 16 miler and wore my thicker NB Minimus Trail Zero V2's. Supposedly minimal, but there's WAY more shoe to them. So I have the good and bad... I've lost my ground feel, but my feet which are still a bit off/on with lingering pains to a degree also don't seem to be getting much negatives from it... So I can plow over my rocky road and not even notice golf ball sized rocks wherever they end up... As long as I don't end up going stupid it should be OK.
Although the other double sided part is that since they don't fit like a glove, I ended up with a nice blister in my (lack of) arch on my left foot after maybe 6 miles in. I stopped back at the garage around mile 9 and wrapped it with some electrical tape. It survived.
But in all, I felt quite good at the end of that 16 mile run...
And Tuesday's 6.5 mile run was a bit more rough, I still think it's doable...
And looking at the calendar...
Basically, it will all be done one way or the other in 2 months and a week...
-Howard 5K this weekend
-22 Miler Monday(let's hope that goes well... I should probably think about a paved route for that one...)
-A 16 miler the following Monday which will be taper week for 8.5 mile Hardcore Mudd Run Saturday and 13.5 mile Dam Good Trail Race Sunday.... I think I'm going to consider that pretty close to the 24 mile run that would otherwise be for the following Monday...
-Another 16 mile the next week which leads to the Spartan College Classic.
--POOF... 1 month and the bunch of "smaller" races is done...
-So... basically 26 miles of suck the Monday after Spartan and we're done worrying... 3 weeks of taper.
Then October bops in and we do 26 flat paved miles... Guess I'll aim for the 4:40 pacer and see how it goes...
Then Green Monster the following weekend at a decent walking pace overall and I made it!
I can do this...
Wednesday, July 22, 2015
Change tactics mid stream?
Hmm, not sure yet...
But a couple items that I may try changing based on some more research...
#1 seems to be focus on doing more in less time.
This is easier said than done... I tend to go along the lines of going slower, but getting the miles done. But I'm seeing more about not going out for as long(maybe 3 hours). But the idea is to go faster/better quality runs during that time.
Perhaps this might tie in to:
#2 which is that with the exception of those ultra long runs, just about every other run I'm doing is first thing in the morning with no fuel. It seems that those fuel starved runs may be good, but maybe not for all of them to be that way... So I may want to add some fuel to some of my morning runs.
But a couple items that I may try changing based on some more research...
#1 seems to be focus on doing more in less time.
This is easier said than done... I tend to go along the lines of going slower, but getting the miles done. But I'm seeing more about not going out for as long(maybe 3 hours). But the idea is to go faster/better quality runs during that time.
Perhaps this might tie in to:
#2 which is that with the exception of those ultra long runs, just about every other run I'm doing is first thing in the morning with no fuel. It seems that those fuel starved runs may be good, but maybe not for all of them to be that way... So I may want to add some fuel to some of my morning runs.
Sunday, July 19, 2015
0SPF
Well, this proved to be a rather interesting race mainly because of the odd random pains and numbness etc that had been moving through my toes, feet, ankles, knee, hamstring and hip over the previous couple weeks post 30 mile "run"...
But it seemed like things were feeling pretty decent the morning of. Made it through the flood warnings and torrential downpours on the way up.
Then standing at the starting line I felt some new stabbing needle sensations in my right ankle. Crap, what new pain is this?! Then I looked down after it happened a couple more times and realized it was in fact a bug that didn't care that I was wearing compression socks, it was gonna just chew right through them/me.
But the race felt good as far as my feet, etc went.
But unfortunately the weather was as predicted. Climbing through the 70's and clearing 80 before I was done and humidity was around 90%. So, it was hot and humid to start. And by around mile 8 or so I was really ready for it to be done... I kept looking at my watch and thinking/hoping it must be messed up, it couldn't possible be that far left...
I also was hoping I could just stretch my water out a bit and be ok with my 2 23oz bottles. But yeah, I realized that was going to be a mistake by about 90 minutes in. I got a couple refills in there as well during my near 3 and a half hours out there.
The last half of the race was a lot of my mouth/body saying "just get gallons and gallons of ice water and pour them in!", but my stomach was saying "ehh, just take it easy on me..."
I also made mental notes of being just fine with not running any of the races I am scheduled for this year... As well as the one I think I will try to stand by more which is to probably NOT do this race again, or any this long that may be in this sort of heat. It was just not enjoyable for those last miles. And that last hill was a definite death march just trying to walk up that field road in the oppressive heat, humidity and out in the sun.
So, it was a good race, but that is just too many difficulty factors for me to enjoy at that distance.
But it seemed like things were feeling pretty decent the morning of. Made it through the flood warnings and torrential downpours on the way up.
Then standing at the starting line I felt some new stabbing needle sensations in my right ankle. Crap, what new pain is this?! Then I looked down after it happened a couple more times and realized it was in fact a bug that didn't care that I was wearing compression socks, it was gonna just chew right through them/me.
But the race felt good as far as my feet, etc went.
But unfortunately the weather was as predicted. Climbing through the 70's and clearing 80 before I was done and humidity was around 90%. So, it was hot and humid to start. And by around mile 8 or so I was really ready for it to be done... I kept looking at my watch and thinking/hoping it must be messed up, it couldn't possible be that far left...
I also was hoping I could just stretch my water out a bit and be ok with my 2 23oz bottles. But yeah, I realized that was going to be a mistake by about 90 minutes in. I got a couple refills in there as well during my near 3 and a half hours out there.
The last half of the race was a lot of my mouth/body saying "just get gallons and gallons of ice water and pour them in!", but my stomach was saying "ehh, just take it easy on me..."
I also made mental notes of being just fine with not running any of the races I am scheduled for this year... As well as the one I think I will try to stand by more which is to probably NOT do this race again, or any this long that may be in this sort of heat. It was just not enjoyable for those last miles. And that last hill was a definite death march just trying to walk up that field road in the oppressive heat, humidity and out in the sun.
So, it was a good race, but that is just too many difficulty factors for me to enjoy at that distance.
Saturday, July 18, 2015
Is it possible to overtrain and undertrain at the same time?
Oh, let's see I have a couple entries I've been thinking about... This one and then the one for 0SPF which kinda ties in...
Dang runner's mind... I know the waves it goes in and I've heard from so many others that it's the same. Running is great! Why am I doing this?! I'm never running again! OK, Let's sign up for the next one! Something like that... So I'm trying to take my time with decisions.
So the big challenges this year were the Wineglass Marathon which I did last year and was the only race I didn't enjoy and was in a lot of pain at the end. And then the Green Monster 50K which will take me to Ultra status, and is just crazy cause it's like 7800' of elevation...
Well, those 2 aren't until October, but with my other more "normal" races in between and not wanting to run 30 miles the week before or after a race, I worked on building up the mileage early.
So... as of about 2 weeks ago I finished up 3 weeks in a row of a long run each Monday. (there might have been another couple days around the first week, not sure...) but those runs were 26+, 29 and 30 miles respectively. I walked a lot and was out there 6-8.5hrs at a time. I think the 26 mile one I did a lot on the Finger Lakes Trail. The others I kept on my local seasonal road I run which just meant 4 trips back and forth across the hills and the rock laden areas. The first two went about as expected, slow, tiring, but done.
The last one I tried going a bit slower from the start, hoping for some negative splits or just somehow not being in as bad a shape. Yeah, that didn't really work. My feet were still awfully worn out around the halfway point and I was walking most of it.
I think that was my issue. Walking on tired feet in minimal footwear over golfball sized rocks for 30 miles... Still, things felt mostly normal tired afterwards, maybe a tad more knee, hip and hamstring issue, but not too bad. Then like a couple days later I started getting some weird floating issues... I even had a couple pretty good feeling runs in there... But during the course of most of the last 2 weeks, there have been bits of toe numbness, right foot pain, left knee pain, right hip/hamstring pain(that's been pretty minimal). Mainly it was the right foot. I took a walk one day and isolated it to the fact that it was leaning to the right a bit and kind of in the area where an arch would be if I had one. If I kept my weight up on the balls of my feet where it should be, all was fine. it was just the sloppy walking that hurt, which I'm sure I did plenty of and jamming rocks in that area at the same time during that 30 miles...
So then I tried wearing some more protective shoes for recovery for a few days and I think that led to my ankle pain because I wasn't used to having that extra inch of leverage under my feet, or off-angle stuff on a couple pairs.(the other 2 pairs I have are at least 0 drop so that's good).
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I've felt plenty tired and sore after plenty of runs. But after a number of these 20+ mile "runs" in the 6-8hr range, I've pretty confidently concluded that I don't like them. It's more than I want to do. And I rather wish I hadn't signed up for those 2 long races at the end of the year. I believe my hope was that since more mileage felt fine this year that going longer shouldn't be as hard. Well, it would seem I'm still hitting that dang wall at around 16-20 miles, even with more practice.
Now, I don't know that I couldn't build myself up to that level, but I do not want to invest that much time.
So...
The current questions/thoughts are...
-While I wouldn't have conceived of not doing these races I've already paid for... How much pain will I be in, and how much do I really NOT enjoy these distances? I'm seriously considering the option of just skipping them...
-Unless I make the decision of dropping them, how little training can I get away with(currently still only planning on one more long one in the next couple weeks and then maybe another one or two before taper). And which shoes should I wear during training and/or racing...
After this 13.5 mile race on Saturday I went through the feelings of being pretty much OK with just dropping out of EVERY race I'm signed up for the rest of the year, but now I'm feeling better. But still a bit unsure.
I know Wineglass only offers the option to defer my entry to next year. No refunds or transfers. Not positive about trying to switch to the half... Not sure on Green Monster, but might be similar...
I'm not looking for stellar times, I was already figuring most of green monster would be walking, but I guess that's my concern now... I seem to be having more trouble with walking that running... but there's no way I'm going to be running that far, or that far uphill for Monster...
So, we'll see. Right now my feet and calves have bits of notice, but in general I'm feeling pretty decent. But I think I'd like to get my feet feeling pretty well completely recovered before I were to try another run...
We'll see...
Dang runner's mind... I know the waves it goes in and I've heard from so many others that it's the same. Running is great! Why am I doing this?! I'm never running again! OK, Let's sign up for the next one! Something like that... So I'm trying to take my time with decisions.
So the big challenges this year were the Wineglass Marathon which I did last year and was the only race I didn't enjoy and was in a lot of pain at the end. And then the Green Monster 50K which will take me to Ultra status, and is just crazy cause it's like 7800' of elevation...
Well, those 2 aren't until October, but with my other more "normal" races in between and not wanting to run 30 miles the week before or after a race, I worked on building up the mileage early.
So... as of about 2 weeks ago I finished up 3 weeks in a row of a long run each Monday. (there might have been another couple days around the first week, not sure...) but those runs were 26+, 29 and 30 miles respectively. I walked a lot and was out there 6-8.5hrs at a time. I think the 26 mile one I did a lot on the Finger Lakes Trail. The others I kept on my local seasonal road I run which just meant 4 trips back and forth across the hills and the rock laden areas. The first two went about as expected, slow, tiring, but done.
The last one I tried going a bit slower from the start, hoping for some negative splits or just somehow not being in as bad a shape. Yeah, that didn't really work. My feet were still awfully worn out around the halfway point and I was walking most of it.
I think that was my issue. Walking on tired feet in minimal footwear over golfball sized rocks for 30 miles... Still, things felt mostly normal tired afterwards, maybe a tad more knee, hip and hamstring issue, but not too bad. Then like a couple days later I started getting some weird floating issues... I even had a couple pretty good feeling runs in there... But during the course of most of the last 2 weeks, there have been bits of toe numbness, right foot pain, left knee pain, right hip/hamstring pain(that's been pretty minimal). Mainly it was the right foot. I took a walk one day and isolated it to the fact that it was leaning to the right a bit and kind of in the area where an arch would be if I had one. If I kept my weight up on the balls of my feet where it should be, all was fine. it was just the sloppy walking that hurt, which I'm sure I did plenty of and jamming rocks in that area at the same time during that 30 miles...
So then I tried wearing some more protective shoes for recovery for a few days and I think that led to my ankle pain because I wasn't used to having that extra inch of leverage under my feet, or off-angle stuff on a couple pairs.(the other 2 pairs I have are at least 0 drop so that's good).
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I've felt plenty tired and sore after plenty of runs. But after a number of these 20+ mile "runs" in the 6-8hr range, I've pretty confidently concluded that I don't like them. It's more than I want to do. And I rather wish I hadn't signed up for those 2 long races at the end of the year. I believe my hope was that since more mileage felt fine this year that going longer shouldn't be as hard. Well, it would seem I'm still hitting that dang wall at around 16-20 miles, even with more practice.
Now, I don't know that I couldn't build myself up to that level, but I do not want to invest that much time.
So...
The current questions/thoughts are...
-While I wouldn't have conceived of not doing these races I've already paid for... How much pain will I be in, and how much do I really NOT enjoy these distances? I'm seriously considering the option of just skipping them...
-Unless I make the decision of dropping them, how little training can I get away with(currently still only planning on one more long one in the next couple weeks and then maybe another one or two before taper). And which shoes should I wear during training and/or racing...
After this 13.5 mile race on Saturday I went through the feelings of being pretty much OK with just dropping out of EVERY race I'm signed up for the rest of the year, but now I'm feeling better. But still a bit unsure.
I know Wineglass only offers the option to defer my entry to next year. No refunds or transfers. Not positive about trying to switch to the half... Not sure on Green Monster, but might be similar...
I'm not looking for stellar times, I was already figuring most of green monster would be walking, but I guess that's my concern now... I seem to be having more trouble with walking that running... but there's no way I'm going to be running that far, or that far uphill for Monster...
So, we'll see. Right now my feet and calves have bits of notice, but in general I'm feeling pretty decent. But I think I'd like to get my feet feeling pretty well completely recovered before I were to try another run...
We'll see...
Tuesday, June 9, 2015
Struggles
So where am I right now? I'm tired. Not hugely so, but there is the frequent weight of tiredness on me at the moment. Really just mental I think. Though, that is one of the struggles, which is to say trying to determine whether my body is just tired from a lot of miles. Which becomes a bit mentally tiring trying to figure out if I should be pushing harder or taking it a bit easier. I do my best to err on the side of safe while still accomplishing my goals. As far as going the distance this seems to work. It seems speed goals are where injuries are more likely.
Right now my goal is the Green Monster 50K in October. Besides being 33 miles long, it's also got almost elevation as the Spartan beast in VT last year.(which was only 16 miles, but had obstacles as well. That took about 9 hours.)
I also have a bunch of other races before that which will somewhat interrupt training. As such I'm trying to build my mileage base now, quite a bit ahead of schedule. I'm trying to follow the 10% rule(as in don't go increase more than that per week), though when your long runs are in the 20's that means I'm adding 2 more miles every week. On that note, it is nice to see the improvement from last year. It was largely the 22 mile run(of which I had only done once before during the Wineglass last year) where I found myself going "oh yeah, I had forgotten this overly tired leg feeling..." Not to say that my feet and legs don't get tired, but not to that level, but they did a lot more with a lot less mileage last year.
Anyway, I'm not going for speed right now, just looking to injury free completion of Wineglass Full and Green Monster 50K a week later. Although I do want to try to get in a bit more speed work before the Howard 5K in... August I think.
Anyway, this leads us to weight and food.
I guess I'll start with weight. I'm currently about 195lbs. And I've been right close to 200lbs for almost a year now. I believe I just barely nudged into the 180's at my lowest last year. And part of me feels that I should just be ok with it cause I seem pretty healthy. Though for that matter, I don't think I was that unhealthy when I was 225lbs or more. Heck, even when I cleared 250lbs right before I decided I needed to lose weight, it's not like I had any real problems. But it's not like I wasn't doing anything, I was out walking a decent amount.
Still. Here I am at 195 and I definitely have a good 30-50lbs of spare tire/muffin top. I'd really like it to be less. And of course it would probably help my speed and reduce the load on my joints. Not that they are showing any serious issues, but occasionally I feel where I've not quite got my form right.
So we come to the losing of weight... Seems like it ought to just drop right off with all this running, right? Well, it did when I started a year or so ago... And I've dropped 5-10lbs in like a week on occasion. But I'm pretty sure I'm still eating too much. But it's difficult to tell just how much I should be eating. Calorie burn estimates on various running apps seem to have humongous differences... The latest one I've got is from Garmin and other than when I really push it at a race, it generally tells me I'm barely clearing 100 calories per mile. While other apps tell me it should be almost twice that. That's a pretty big difference on a 20 mile run... Did I just burn 2000 calories or 4000? And is my body really going to be happy if I still try to keep my intake to around 2000? Or is it going to want more fuel to rebuild those muscles, etc?
Even considering that I should eat less on the really bad calorie intake days, it comes down to my biggest issues:
#1 Emotional eating. Most of the time, this is stress eating. I love my girls to no end and they are WONDERFUL lots of the time! But then they are insane like half the time... One minute they're hugging and talking to each other, the next they're pushing each other down. So I find most often it seems to be the nights and weekends where I just find myself stressed and just wanting to eat something whether I'm hungry or not.
#2 is probably my bit of OCD where I don't like to see little bits of food around. I want to clear them up and feel like it's cleared off/out. And I don't like to waste food and throw it out. This is a lot worse with my girls since they always seem to leave several bites of whatever they were eating in a bowl around the house or in the fridge, etc.
So... We come down to about the only way I've had much luck in trying to control my eating. Basically I think I try to switch the side of my brain that I use when it comes to food. I try to take it from "food is enjoyment" to "food is a utility". Try to switch off the emotional part when it comes to eating. Not to say that this is easy or just works, but if I can keep focused enough, it kinda works. That also ties into trying to eat "cleaner". Cause snacks sound good. Fruit is just kinda OK, and veggies are acceptable at best, but most of the time a definite negative. I've gotten to the point where I am a bit more accepting of veggies, but I'm basically trying to ignore what I'm doing while eating them.
Anyway. just some thoughts that have been hanging on for a while. On we go!
Right now my goal is the Green Monster 50K in October. Besides being 33 miles long, it's also got almost elevation as the Spartan beast in VT last year.(which was only 16 miles, but had obstacles as well. That took about 9 hours.)
I also have a bunch of other races before that which will somewhat interrupt training. As such I'm trying to build my mileage base now, quite a bit ahead of schedule. I'm trying to follow the 10% rule(as in don't go increase more than that per week), though when your long runs are in the 20's that means I'm adding 2 more miles every week. On that note, it is nice to see the improvement from last year. It was largely the 22 mile run(of which I had only done once before during the Wineglass last year) where I found myself going "oh yeah, I had forgotten this overly tired leg feeling..." Not to say that my feet and legs don't get tired, but not to that level, but they did a lot more with a lot less mileage last year.
Anyway, I'm not going for speed right now, just looking to injury free completion of Wineglass Full and Green Monster 50K a week later. Although I do want to try to get in a bit more speed work before the Howard 5K in... August I think.
Anyway, this leads us to weight and food.
I guess I'll start with weight. I'm currently about 195lbs. And I've been right close to 200lbs for almost a year now. I believe I just barely nudged into the 180's at my lowest last year. And part of me feels that I should just be ok with it cause I seem pretty healthy. Though for that matter, I don't think I was that unhealthy when I was 225lbs or more. Heck, even when I cleared 250lbs right before I decided I needed to lose weight, it's not like I had any real problems. But it's not like I wasn't doing anything, I was out walking a decent amount.
Still. Here I am at 195 and I definitely have a good 30-50lbs of spare tire/muffin top. I'd really like it to be less. And of course it would probably help my speed and reduce the load on my joints. Not that they are showing any serious issues, but occasionally I feel where I've not quite got my form right.
So we come to the losing of weight... Seems like it ought to just drop right off with all this running, right? Well, it did when I started a year or so ago... And I've dropped 5-10lbs in like a week on occasion. But I'm pretty sure I'm still eating too much. But it's difficult to tell just how much I should be eating. Calorie burn estimates on various running apps seem to have humongous differences... The latest one I've got is from Garmin and other than when I really push it at a race, it generally tells me I'm barely clearing 100 calories per mile. While other apps tell me it should be almost twice that. That's a pretty big difference on a 20 mile run... Did I just burn 2000 calories or 4000? And is my body really going to be happy if I still try to keep my intake to around 2000? Or is it going to want more fuel to rebuild those muscles, etc?
Even considering that I should eat less on the really bad calorie intake days, it comes down to my biggest issues:
#1 Emotional eating. Most of the time, this is stress eating. I love my girls to no end and they are WONDERFUL lots of the time! But then they are insane like half the time... One minute they're hugging and talking to each other, the next they're pushing each other down. So I find most often it seems to be the nights and weekends where I just find myself stressed and just wanting to eat something whether I'm hungry or not.
#2 is probably my bit of OCD where I don't like to see little bits of food around. I want to clear them up and feel like it's cleared off/out. And I don't like to waste food and throw it out. This is a lot worse with my girls since they always seem to leave several bites of whatever they were eating in a bowl around the house or in the fridge, etc.
So... We come down to about the only way I've had much luck in trying to control my eating. Basically I think I try to switch the side of my brain that I use when it comes to food. I try to take it from "food is enjoyment" to "food is a utility". Try to switch off the emotional part when it comes to eating. Not to say that this is easy or just works, but if I can keep focused enough, it kinda works. That also ties into trying to eat "cleaner". Cause snacks sound good. Fruit is just kinda OK, and veggies are acceptable at best, but most of the time a definite negative. I've gotten to the point where I am a bit more accepting of veggies, but I'm basically trying to ignore what I'm doing while eating them.
Anyway. just some thoughts that have been hanging on for a while. On we go!
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